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He should make this into a series. Isn’t this the second time he’s done this? Every couple of months he should post a video like this.
The problem is, fand will start saying stupid stuff just to get in somebody’s channel
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A PLclipr posting the Same Style of Video multiple times? LOL. Ahhh... And Dumb Ass PLclip PAYS THEM again and Again. Saw a video earlier of a YTber did the same video mentioning TESLA and in those 6 SAME Videos posted ever 2 months... He got 4m views on each... Just keep doing it until PLclip can figure it out keeps stealing that money!! I do like JxmyHughrollers videos though... Always pretty good. 👍🏼Can't wait for the video he does when he says how Lebron's Kid is only in the NBA because of LeBron. At that point LeBron should just Purchase an NBA NEW Team (in Seattle) and have BOTH his Boys on it...and surround THEM with 'Super Teamates' What you don't think THAT is gonna happen? Look out Seattle in 2029-2030. SuperSonics= SuperTeam.
Zion new Barkley I called it
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When I watched this video, I remembered how legendary the 2015-2016 season was.- Kobe's retirement and last game 60 points- GSW 73-9- Maybe the best dunk contest ever - Oklahoma's 3-1 loss in conference finals and KD had his first poor playoff performance While westbrooke had his first good playoff performance (This serie changed the nba because Kd went to golden state after that)- Game 6 Klay- Stephen curry Unanimous MVP- and of course Cavs comeback from 3-1 (first time in the finals history) and lebron's most meaningful championship and blok
@Johnny B. Good stop it, you act like draymond got suspened because what happened in game 4, but he only got a technical foul, but he reach 7 technical in a season so there was automatic suspension, if he did not play dirty(like kicking steven Steven Adams's nuts) in previous series he would not have been suspened
@Johnny B. Good Warriors stan
@coolcatkid Never rigged, always influenced.
@CoasterMagnet i think the d rose one was in 2015
Lemme make a list of 2016:They do have a timeout decide not to use itRose trying to get open fires awayIguodala to curry back to iguodala up for the layupKobe on the move with the jumper HES GOT ITCleveland that is for youIts good Kyrie irving from down town
8:10 “Physical defense does not automatically mean good defense” Oldhead: “You’re telling me that punching someone while they’re driving to the hoop and then call them 'weak' afterwards is not good defense??” 🤯🤯
@Srinath Venuraj you must be a pure offensive guy. No matter how stupidest you think I sound, I stand by it. Because without any physical contact, it's not defense.
@Donald Butler that's honestly the stupidest take on defense I've read in ages.
Well, to disagree with you respectfully, 90's players could shoot. They just weren't allowed to, given the green light like todays players have. Yeah they went inside first to the post, but they could shoot the lights out if given the chance. Just to name a few, Dan Marlee, Robert Horry, Steve Kerr, Jim Paxton, Michael Jordan, Reggie Miller, Steve Smith, just to name a few.
Actually physical play hard fouling but not flagrant fouls are part of the game even today. Just look at the playoffs and the impact that has on scoring. It wears you out and mental toughness, skill and quickness has to take over. I believe 90s players were already skilled but being held back by this sort of play style. Watching 80s basketball players couldnt shoot and only guarded the paint. The style was to feed the low post and so everyone sagged off of the passer who today would easily take and make that shot.
This is a good video. It's good to see offensive plays that were created in the beginning of the NBA still being used today in the NBA. But when it comes to sports I like defense, which probably makes me odd man out 😎. Because a good defense has to be physical on some level to be good.
LeBron's chase down block on Iguodala is one of the greatest moments in sports of our generation. I'm glad I stayed up until 5 am to watch it live. 2016 NBA finals were lit.
@Mazi Leone sounds like everyone with the lakers in the 00s
@GRezende I grew up around that time. As far as I remember, literally everyone was a Bulls fan. If I’m not mistaken, 4 out of the top 5 most watched finals had MJ and the Bulls.
@Boaz Sds u from that time?Honest question. What was the vibe actually like. Was it something like "wathever mj n bulls r just going to win another chip" or was there a legitimate hype for the other team? Were the bulls ever the underdog?
You right, but during the 90's finals staying up until 5am was every year routine, 90's finals were the best ever. The Bulls team was the best show you could get & that final shot by MJ was the best moment you could asked for.
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The main reason why high level players are teaming up so much in the past 10 years is because of 'ring culture'. If we really want to prevent superteams from forming then the media and fans need to stop obsessing over rings and judging players abilities and talents by how many rings they have.The NBA media, fans and players are obsessed with legacies and all time rankings, much more so than any other sport. No matter how good a particular player is, if they don't have at least one ring by the time they retire, their legacies are stained. Almost like they're considered busts. Part of this started with LeBron who has had by far the most pressure to deliver of any player in the history of the NBA, starting from when he was a junior in high school. The NBA media has followed his entire career with the expectation that he would be the next MJ or GOAT candidate and has been obsessed with his 'legacy' ever since 2002. Because of that, he felt he needed to maximize his talent and live up to expectations and win as many rings as possible. Now it has spread to nearly every superstar of the past 10 years. They all feel pressure to win rings because without a ring, NBA fans and media will call you a failure, or not clutch, or not a winner.Ring culture is toxic to NBA. Damian Lillard and Bradley Beal have decided to tough it out with the teams they were drafted by instead of forcing trades to other teams with superstars so they can win rings. If they retire without winning any titles they will be vilified for not having any rings and not caring about winning. LeBron/KD/Harden change teams often because they want rings to boost their legacies, and they are vilified as well for chasing rings.Stop judging players by how many rings they have and the superteams will stop.
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YOU PLAY TO WIN THE GAME!
@Raw Primal Covers Jordan would definitvely have gotten the Cavs to the playoffs. Let MJ play for the 2 years he didn't and he wins 8 rings too.
@Bryan Chandler I'm an asshole, so i behave as such.
@King Jaffe this makes me wonder if there have been any sociology formal or edutainment studies on what sports have the worst fans and why. I think it would depend on how you categorize worse like in the US for example I imagine most NASCAR fans are going to be more racist than NBA fans, but I would be more interested in the toxicity related to the sports themselves rather than fairly surface level general stuff like this.
Do. Not. Stop. This. Series.I absolutely love it.
yes we do
fuck. off. putting. dots. between. each. word. you. fucking. annoying. cunt.
KD to Grand Canyon University 😂😂😂😂😂... The worse part is... I can definitely see that happening
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Hot take: Kyrie finding a way back to Bron would be the smartest decision he’s made since he left for Boston.
watching this now after the trade to dallas where they will be great but then kyrie leaves anyway for LA on a sign-and-trade of some sorts
@Tgftyyy not a hot take... everyone agrees. 🤣 🤣
@Debrah Andy I couldn't agree more
@Nymphopath Because you might get a Mavericks story
wHY not super stack an entire all-star roster onto two teams, then boot the rest of the league?
Keep. on. making. this. series.It will be awesome to include more the things that makes NBA today so different compared to the NBA before.
What makes nba players great is their utilization of their specific abilities and skills. Shaq didn't need a jump shot, KD doesn't need 300 pounds of muscle. These guys can adapt.
@Nymphopath no they wouldn’t ur a cornball
@Doggos in the House nah that seems like a pretty good analysis.
Probably an unpopular opinion, but whenever I hear people talk about the greatness of Shaq it generally comes down to his size and his strength, which allowed him to operate with impunity in the low post. After all, he was literally one of the heaviest men to ever play in the NBA. Meanwhile, he had poor work ethic, infamously poor shooting and his speed faded over the years along with his fitness level.Would he be dominant in today's NBA? Well, he'd certainly get his share of post lay-ups and he'd get plenty of rebounds, but that's only if he could keep up with the rate of play. Most plays would be over before Shaq was in position.... and let's not pretend he'd be a) taking many midrange or outside shots or b) defending them. Young Shaq? Sure, he could probably stay in and contribute. Shaq from the mid-2000s? Ummm.... they'd be giving him oxygen on the sidelines between plays.
Many of todays stars would have A CAREER ENDING NERVOUS BREAKDOWN after getting hacked on the way to the basket just once from a 90's defender.
Have you seen Jimmy's video about what if Steph Curry was 7 ft tall? It basically makes a point similar to this one
I’ve always said the same about the Giannis-Robinson comp. Robinson was very fast and athletic and great on the break. If they’d given him the green light to develop and use skills like ball handling and 3 point shooting, I have no doubt he’d be what Giannis is today. Probably a better shooter too. Only thing he lacked is the meanness/mental toughness Giannis has.
Shout Out to Frank Brickowski, he just got his longest highlight reel since he was playing. I see you Jxmy, showing love to the unknowns of NBA history.
I know I’m late but random shit I went to the same high school as Frank Brickowski and he’s look at as an absolute GOD because of how small our school is. Kinda wild to see him actually know by other people tho lol
Don't disrespect my man Eastbrick like that.
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@malooch I was just thinking the same thing when Brickowski was brought up.
@PAQUIN Raino Good comparison, but the Admiral was a 5, Giannis is a 4 so I was trying to think of 4s that matchup against Giannis, early Hakeem played 4 so that's a good comparison too.
That Giannis take is actually the most absurd take I've Ever Heard. L Oakley
Oakley just wanted a piece of that "older guys trashing current nba players" action and failed miserably - i mean, even shaq sounds butthurt when talking shit to donovan or others, and what the heck did oakley do comparatively to earn the right to shit on giannis? giannis is on track to be top 25 all time easy, where does oakley stand?
Hot Take: We don't emphasize Turnovers enough when discussing players legacies. A turnover is the 2nd worst play in basketball after allowing your opponent to score with bad defense. Turnovers are worse than missed shots because at least missed shots provide offensive rebound and 2nd-shot opportunities. A turnover has no redeeming value. 2nd Hot Take: Why don't we talk about how the Eastern Conference has been, by a significant margin, far inferior to the Western Conference since MJ retired?(Go look up the amount of 50 Win Teams the West has produced since MJ retired compared to the East, not even close).
I'll do a quick gander over contenders around the time of Jordan's retirement and see what they have done wrong.Heat: Probably the only team that stayed as the Eastern flagship franchise, though they did age out a bit during Zo+Hardaway's latter years, and did not utilize the full potential of late 00s Wade, but still, 3 champs and regular stars joining, great going.Bulls: Jerry Krause fucked the team up, then they have hope until Derrick Rose's knees blew upMagic: They traded Shaq to Lakers, then Grant Hill was injured thus making TMac their lone star, then Howard almost had it for them but then he left and Magic ain't winning morePacers: Malice at the Palace.Knicks: Just, James Dolan.76ers: Iverson and Brown spent half the time arguing, and AI was mad inefficientBucks:Traded away Ray Allen for a reduced Gary Payton in 2003. (why)Nets: Kidd needs help, and Vince ain't it.Early 00's Celtics: Trading Joe Johnson, and Billups away, really?Pistons: Had something going in the mid-2000s, coulda have been sth, but Billups for Iverson killed the dream00s Cavaliers: STOP SURROUNDING LEBRON WITH EITHER HAS BEEN OR NO NAMES!But the West also did things rightJazz: Actually paying Carlos Boozer against the CavsLakers: Stealing Shaq (from Magic), and Kobe (from Nets, Celtics, and Hornets (whom Jerry West traded the pick).Spurs: Just Pop and Duncan, they are who they areBlazers: Whitsitt had a stacked team, containing former Bulls Pippen and former Bullets Rasheed WallaceKings: Stealing Chris Webber from the Bullets for an over-the-hill Mitch RichmondMavs: Stealing Dirk Nowitzki from the Bucks in a trade.Timberwolves: Just, draft Garnett innit.Suns: Building 7SOL with Mike D'Antoni and Steve Nash.Nuggets: Drafting MeloWith a focus on the 2000s, it can be seen that the GMs out East are just a bit shit.
@Dingo The East Was TERRIBLE from 1999 to 2007 and 2015 to 2018.
@Dingo east has been ass for over a decade what world are you living in???
the East has been getting better while the west has been getting worse tho
To your first Hot Take. Turnovers come from players who pass a lot, they often don't mean that you're bad they just mean you pass a lot. Which emphasizes that you are a team player, which is good in a team sport. But we can look down on players with a bad Ast/Tov ratio like Moses Malone, Dwight Howard, Kevin Willis.2nd Hot Take: We always talk about that, when ever we talk about the Goat, people always come up how LeBron played in a weak eastern confrence.
I remember I use to watch Barkley play just to see him fight someone. lol Literally there was a very high chance this would happen in every single game.
I'm always going to be in favor of players doing what they want vs being treated like assets. Play where you want, with who you want. Period.
@atomant830 so what? Then you’re gonna have a disgruntled player on your hands. He’s expressed he doesn’t wanna be there so strike while the iron is hot and his trade value is what it is. He’s not going to be as good as he is now and if he doesn’t want to sit through a rebuild then he has the right to ask for a trade
@Kaleb Stewart Yeah, it is bad when a team trades a player and don't let the player know they're shopping him and worst sometimes tell the player they're not going to trade him then does so, but a player of KD's caliber can demand a "no trade clause" in his contract that would keep a team from doing that.
@atomant830 nah Fuck that. They don’t have a problem trading a player in the middle of a game while he’s under contract. So if a player wants a trade there’s no problem with it either
I agree, players should not be penalized for teaming up to win championships because all organizations are not created equally. Some organizations don't know how to win championships. Having stated that I must push back on players requesting trades in the middle of contract limits. Players should play contracts out them make moves. What LeBron did going from Cleveland to Miami is not What AD did leaving New Orleans going to Los Angeles. LeBron left after contract expired AD demanded trade in the middle of contract term.
Facts. Always gonna be pro player. Fuck taking pay cuts and giving loyalty to a billionaire
The Giannis take made me actually lol, for an unreasonably long time. I just wish I wasn't in my office, as people got a little concerned for a second there. Phew, thanks Jimmy, top tier comedy you found from Oakley.
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Players are great because they play in this era. They look at this current NBA and they see what works and adjust their play to make sure they work. if the current Giannis played in the 90's he might not score as much but if Giannis played in the 90's he'd be able to match almost(mj) any player
if giannis played in the 90s he would still be at least top 5 cuz he would adapt and play in the post and bully everybody
Love it! I don't know whose take on Giannis was worse - Oakley's or Harden's. Harden said it takes "no skill" to run down the court and just dunk. smh... what a moron. He sounded like Ron Artest inflicted a brain injury w/ that elbow after such an idiotic statement.
Hot Take: Rasheed Wallace was one of the best big men to every play the game, but was targeted by the referees because of his attitude. If only Sheed had a little bit of modesty, he would have multiple rings.
@Thanks He was definitely a good offensive player. Definitely not a great one, but he had multiple seasons averaging 19-20 ppg
This is one of the worst takes EVER. sheed was only good at defense, and he would just kind of punch the opposite player to draw them a foul and hack them. refs didn't target him, only very rarely. He deserved those techs for nearly killing the opposite player and he was never, ever a good offensive player. In my opinion, he is just a good nba player who was an old vet.
I love Sheed, but one of the best bigs ever? No way. The take is 🔥 but wrong.
I was rooting for the Warriors in 2016 and looking back, that’s the most excited I have still been in the past ten years of NBA Finals. Personally, I will remember it as the best and most meaningful performance of LeBron James’ career and a breakout season for Kyrie.
@lou ha you still putting words in my mouth so how bout I give you some actual excuses steph hurt bogut out, igoudala back injury, draymond ejection and suspension steph suspension, ghost fouls all series
@Markeys 415 The fact that you use that mcl injury as an excuse while Curry was still on the floor the whole time and Thompson's shooting was just as bad shows how brazen you are. Well, I have a better excuse: they panicked🤣
@Markeys 415 No I wouldn't use injury as an excuse even if it happens to core players because injury is by all means part of the game, stop putting your pathetic mindset on me🤣. But rest assured, I will discredit Curry any time I see someone like you😆
@lou ha and in that case he gets two more for 16 and 19😂😂 and are you gonna take away the bucks ring in 20-21? No so don’t try and discredit steph and put an Astrik on one nba finals if you’re not gonna do it for every year, and I’m not using injuries as an excuse but even if I was injuries to a teams best player(s) are valid excuses, if giannis is playing through an injury but he loses what you gonna do? You gonna say if Giannis was healthy…. So stop it😂
@Markeys 415 Really? Using injury as an excuse😂. I guess if it wasn't for the injuries, the Cavs would win 14-15, it would be the Lakers v.s. Bucks in 20-21 and it would be Warriors v.s. Bucks 21-22. Sad for Curry, 2 rings down🤣
Bro thanks for the basketball wisdom that I've been gaining from this channel. I appreciate it
Away from my family and spend a lot of time sitting in the barracks polishing kit or being bored, your videos give me something to do to take my mind off the repetitive shut I gotta do man, thanks!
I agree. The league needs to reserve rights of approval for *repeat* “Let’s make a Super Team!” performances. It favors too much places with large media audiences and flash.
Jimmy. Need this series every week man. This is too good.
the 2016 finals was one of the most improbably unprecedented series in sports history, and it is an absolute travesty to see that people are seemingly so quick to forget this; yes, the final scores at face-value seem decisive in every other game except for 7, but the fact that each team kept clapping back in such dramatic fashion was part of what made it so competitive and unpredictable, and nobody even remembers the fact that the teams were actually so evenly matched that each team had scored the exact same amount of points in the series going into game 7. all of that on top of the cavs winning n making nba history w the comeback and lebron making his ultimate statement.... it was fucking historic on every level
@Manz MJ never faced a team as good as the 73-9 warriors
@Gab Atnibac the bad boys butchered him
@A m a r Singg lmao MJ was even more babied by the league.
@Stratosphere that's one game, low iq
@Stratosphere most people aren't low iq lol. He came back early from all MCL and most high IQ people know that.
He ought to produce a series out of this. This isn't the first time he's done it, is it? He ought to publish a film like to this one every few months.🤣
Incredible video Jimmy! The 2015 and 2016 NBA Finals were two of the best championship series of all time!
Hot take: Jrue Holiday is the most underrated point guard.I'd rather choose him over most point guards in the league. Becuase after he showcased his superb defensive prowess in the 2021 Finals, basketball iq, and physicality, I could say that he's more reliable than CP3 and Trae, especially in the playoffs. Unlike other point guards that drop 30 a game, he's more of getting everyone in his team involved in the game and knows when to step up when the team needs to score. He could have played a better match up against Steph if the Bucks played the 2022 Finals.
@AB Joe yeah in a back and forth series that could have gone either way, without Khris Middleton too.
@AB Joe bruhh, obviously the Celtics won but I'm talking about individual performance.
Lol they got defeated by the team that faced steph wdym 😂
Jimmy stay with the BANGERS!!🔥🔥
The hottest take in the comments.
@ForgiveZharion yb mid asf 😹😹
@ForgiveZharion here you go again smh
Ratio + yb better + nobody asked + this you 🤓🤓👨🏼💻👨🏼💻👶🏽
This channel along with the last dance doc got me, an Englishman, into basketball
I'm all for player empowerment. I'm not for allowing one or two players blow up a team by demanding a trade while under a contract, especially a max contract. The Nets should refuse to trade Durant and sit him for a year. There has to be consequences for blowing up a team like Durant and Kyrie did with the Nets.
Always loved this channel, very good in depth research,, impressive. Also Jimmy, your music in your videos are top notch, you really know how to set the tone, fuckin respect.
Hot take: It feels like players are out with injuries for longer then in any of the previous generations. I understand that there are more protocols to go through now but it seems that for every single injury they are out for months or even multiple seasons. Injuries have always been a part of every sport since the dawn if time but it really feels like the players are just milking it now.
You’re right for the load management aspect but for major injuries the recovery time is lower than ever. Klay was out for only two years with a torn acl AND Achilles, an injury like that would have killed a player’s career in the 90’s.
You’re not in the locker room and you don’t pay the players and they don’t owe you shit
6:29 - Thinking that a player good enough to lead their team to a championship as the undisputed FMVP would be coming off the bench in ANY ERA is an absolutely INSANE take; legit probably the dumbest take I’ve ever heard.that dude’s seeing green fr
What baffles me more about the disrespect old timers like Oakley show to Giannis is that he’s actually playing old school basketball. Taking it to the rim hard rather than being flashy and cute, absorbing and dealing back physical punishment, insane commitment to both ends of the floor, power dunks, you name it.IIf you add the crazy progress he’s made since his first couple of seasons, his devotion to the city that drafted him, the fact that all his teammates love him (there’s 4-5 guys right now with him in his holidays to Greece, Pat, Carter, Nwora etc) and again, his sheer physical dominance it’s really a mystery how you can sit there with a straight face and publicly claim he’d be a role player back in the day. Go figure.
@Charles Darwin I agree with you, the second part of the 90s sucked. MJ told he came back to win some easy championships. When he saw rookie Duncan he said is going to be a problem and he quit second time. He got scared when he saw what was comming Kobe, Iverson, Duncan.
@Charles Darwin injuries, right. That’s why he gave Durant and the Nets a spanking the last 6 straight games, averaging 34 points.
@Lymbe06 Giannis is a beast but let’s not forget that he only won the championship because the nets and clippers were injured
@Zoltan Lengyel Duncan won AFTER MJ retired…….. in a shortened lockout season….. against the 27th offensively ranked Knicks. All the 90’s stars were 35 years or older: Malone, Stockton, Drexler, Hakeem, Ewing, Barkley,etc l. The other stars were young up and comers on bad teams. Jason Kidd, KG, Grant Hill , Iverson all had significantly worse teams than Duncan.
@Zoltan Lengyel Lebron got outplayed by Jason Terry in the Finals LOL
Not only were the 2016 NBA Finals was epic, the 2016 NBA in general was epic as well
Jimmy: "Hot Takes is Bad BC I saw JJ Redick [and other players] call the media out"Also Jimmy the last several years: *literally doing the same thing*Skip Bayless: *still getting paid*
Hot Take:The NBA needs to get rid of the zero (gather) step. Playing in the most talented league in the world, it should be a bit more difficult to score. The NBA rule book shouldn’t be altered to create a more offensively centered game. If the coaches want to focus more on offense that is fine but the NBA rules shouldn’t be changed to favor offense. It shows the beauty of the game buy being able to score with 2 hands in your face. Compared to taking 4 steps backwards and shooting a 3.
Heart is in the right place but the solution isn't it. Asking refs to call more to change defense isn't the way. They can't even handle what they have to do now. Guys are so fast and crazy now that dudes are straight double dribbling sometimes because refs can't follow the action in real time with confidence. Get rid of the corner 3. That will let defenders be closer to the rim and closer to help position instead of stretched out all over the place. That will get those hands in those faces.
And this is why I would love to see KD on the raptors. No superstars on there, but you do have key pieces for Durant to shine. (yes this is coming from a Raptors fan)
I think the issue is how much they would have to give up, and what depth would remain.. we had some nice depth signings of Boucher, Porter and Thad, but if it takes out over half of our rotation... who will fill in, or step up?
If Gobert went for *four first round picks* and multiple players, imagine what KD's trade is gonna look like 💀💀
@calamorta No offense to Gobert, but him + KAT does not match some of the other great talent in the league. If ANT is crazy good maybe they are a big bump in the playoffs but this team isnt winning it all. Gobert had better talent around him in Utah and the Wolves just sold all of their supporting pieces to get him.
Tbf the players are all mediocre lol
KD trade gonna look like the Carmelo to NY trade
@Todd Cain lmao the t wolves would be dumb enough to take first round picks LMAO they literally missed a bazillion stars
No one has that sort of value to give up, except for maybe OKC but that’d be too hilarious to occur
This definitely a mentally weak era, I actually liked the fact the Steph and other Warriors players used the noise as motivation and clapped back after they won the title, that's how you respond.
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great work as always. few takes from this video:1- fans have too much power and should be limited. What I mean is, it would be nice to see some what of a skill and ability to hold a card to critic a NBA players. I've always believed in you have to earn to be a sports fans; just because if you pay doesn't give you the right. So pick your fans like some companies pick their customers or partners to show quality not just quantity.2- the NBA talent has never been better. the talent is so good, you can literally see the insecurity from the older generation that no way there is something better than we were when we player in our prime. it's a common human factor and we see it in all of the sports. Those from the older generation who recognize today's talent and give them the credit they've earned, good on them and we should see more and more of it. 3- build a team through draft, develop and smart/necessary additions over super teams any day. Glad warriors got what they worked for and not payed for. Also, Celtics; great organization who will get to the similar heights as the GSW if they continue to stick with "build a team through draft, develop and smart/necessary additions" approach
The 2015-2016 season was the last great nba season. The whole season it was able to keep my attention while in recent years I have only paid attention to the opening months and then again during playoffs. Since that season the nba has been significantly worse. Not sure if thats off of bias or I'm not the only one
7:45 Charles Oakley is talking about taking heads off. It's true the NBA was a 'little' more rough back then but these new guys can also play that game. Oakley makes it sound like it was some hardcore breaking bones kind of game or something. It was basketball.. Also Giannis would not be coming off the bench, because he would have took Oakley's spot lol That man talks too much.
Hot take: Defense is severely undervalued in goat debates and ranking players in general. Defense is literally half the game.
@Feynman Schwinger E_MC2 Kobe also never finished Top 2 in DPOY voting ever in his career which LeBron did twice. 2013 LeBron finished 2nd in voting to Marc Gasol and 2009 to Dwight Howard.
@Kari TheMa9ician kobe not even top 5 ur a clown xd and mj only has one dpoy thropy stop acting like bro was 3 times dpoy like rudy or sum and lebron should have gotten that trophy but they gave him second place for dpoy this isnt a video game theres not that huge of a gap between a dpoy and a second place in the voting especially when the guy ur talking about is 6 '9 250+ pure muscles with a 40 inch vert an generational athleticism
@Andrew lebron better
@Kyle Mathis no
Absolutely agree. This is why, for me, the "Curry is top 10" takes are completely deranged. A player who was a defensive liability for much of his career (credit to him for clawing his way up to league average now, well done Steph) cannot be top 10. You gotta be a high-level 2 way player to be top 10. Top 15 ok, but top 10 is really pushing it
Even though Kyrie is arguably one of the greatest point guards to ever exist outta pure skill and talent.. the fact that he is so drama oriented and injury prone I’d rather have Fred Vanvleet as my 1 💯💯💯
BIG up on you content bro @jxmyHighroller. Watch al your videos and you always got the relevant talking points and resonable opinions. Im so fed up about all this polarizing "hot take" bull shit people throw out in the universe just to get attention. The most cringy guys are the old timers that have all the respect in the world, until they start taking shots at the younger generation saying they would not be starting in "that oldtimers era". Keep up the good work and good luck!
i still stand by that finals being carried more by the narrative than the actual basketball played until game 7. even felt that way live 🤷♂️ could for sure just be a salty warriors fan but meh, whatever - i just felt it gets way hyped over a classic like 2013. great content as always jxmy
Thanks for speaking up Jxmy. Well put and I agree.
Please make more of these. I think Charles Oakley has early-stage dementia. Giannis is stronger and quicker than as any player of that era with the exception of Shaq in strength (he was also unbelievably quick) and probably as you said similar to the Admirial. That would have been a great match up to see. Every once in a while, I see posts that state that Larry Bird would have been a below average shooter in this era. Hard to imagine a 50, 40, 90 player would be a bad shooter and they did not even practice the 3 point shot. Who knows but perhaps he would have been a Steph Curry like talent if the game had been different. I have also seen people commenting that Jokic would have been a sub par center in the physical game of the 80s. Really, a guy that can pass and shoot like he can, and listening to Draymond Green, not exactly a weak player himself, saying that Jokic is not soft at all. I wish I could find for you that Jokic comment.
@Charles Darwin you are correct
@Alan G When did Giannis get stronger than Karl Malone ? lol
@ThePhenom10805 Giannis is stronger than Karl Malone, Anthony Mason, Dennis Rodman, Barkley Duncan, etc? I think you have length confused with strength lol.
@ThePhenom10805 Seriously man, get over yourself. Get on basketball Reference and look at "1993-94 NBA Leaders" and scroll through a few years up through 96. Kemp is in the top 10 in the big man stats and the advanced stats. I love that he ranks much higher on offensive boards than defensive: a center can get those defensive boards but Kemp would be fighting in there on the offensive glass. I even remember Bill Walton nearly embarrassing himself with how much he gushed over Kemp in the 96 Finals. And, as Jimmy noted, Kemp outperformed Jordan in key advanced stats. Now do I think Kemp was better than Jordan? Of course not. But he was a freakin animal.The tragedy of Kemp was his immaturity. Couldn't play college ball because he was such a disaster. Blew up a great team and his own career because of jealousy. The Seattle press took to calling him "the man-child" towards the end. And so yeah, the criticisms are very well deserved. But not his game. Karl was a famously difficult coach. Imagine what Kemp would have been under a coach who helped his guys grow up.
@ThePhenom10805 He was in the top ten in multiple big man stats for several years. Usually the shortest guy on the blocks list. Of course he wasn't Mutombo or Olajuwon, all time great shot-blockers (and both over 7'). He also had high steals stats and rebounding. Because he was quicker than almost all these guys, he could stay in front of his man. The main knock on him was he wasn't that heavy. But that's why he played the 4 and not the 5. And almost everybody else on those lists are 5s, and most couldn't steal like Kemp did. Now, he had a lot of flaws, most of which were mental. He fouled a lot. He derailed a contender because he was whining about a backup center making more money than he did. (Very stupid, because he would have soon been a top tier salary as well). But the original point was that it would be fun as well to watch Giannis and the quickest/sproingiest big man in the league go one on one. Did I mention he was one of the best two guys on the team that made it through a brutal Western conference to take two games off :"the best team ever"? I don't know what the hell is wrong with you, but it sure as hell was not Detlef who carried that team to the Finals. The Sonics had two great players: Payton and Kemp. And had Kemp not self destructed he was a shoe-in HoFer and would have had a good shot at a ring.
If Giannis played in the NBA in the 80's or 90's, he definitely would have been coached differently, and his skill sets likely would have been different. He would have played primarily in the post. But also he would have been guarded primarly by post players who actually would match if not outweighed him. I'm sure he would have been good, but I suspect he wouldn't have stood out as much as he does now.
Small thing but I gotta give props for correctly attributing Larry Johnson to the Hornets. Some would assume the Pelicans, who were the hornets but the historic, never been done before MJ/Tom Benson agreement that returned the Hornets history to Charlotte is much appreciated. As a hornets fan, thank you for this attention to detail!
This year was an anomaly, teams with the best aggregate 5 starters (and two way players) were doing better than teams with 2 or 3 stars ... but if healthy (and no drama) the super teams would do better.
No not really.
I don’t even watch basketball, Jim just makes it exciting for me
I swear, Jimmy can make an entire series of this and release a video every week and I'd probably watch every time. It's always entertaining with his stat driven explanations to shut down the dumb takes.
Love the emphasis and energy he puts into what he's saying as well hahah
Why wouldn’t you watch it?
This guy is so good im proud of him when i see an ad because im glad he’ll be getting that bag
2016 actually was a lot deeper than one of the best NBA finals of all time, I believe it was the best year in sports in recent memory period!-My man (
Hot take: players are getting injured more often now than before. Specifically, there has a been an increase in severe injuries that leave players out for extended periods of time, even entire seasons.
Players are bigger and more athletic than ever I don’t think the human can take that size plus athleticism for too long
One of the things that jumps out at me watching this is that there's too many "superstars" -- maybe the problem is a lot of these "superstar" team-ups is actually just "starter-caliber player team-ups." Unless you're in the top-4 for MVP voting each year for 3 yrs running, probably, you aren't a super star.
My hot take: removing the 3 point line would make the game more interesting to watch, but only for one season.
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"Defense wins championships."And every time it wins, they change the rules to kill it.1999 season: Spurs and 8-seed Knicks make it to Finals via great defense.RULE CHANGE: Kill hand-checking. "In the backcourt, there is no contact with hands and forearms by defenders. In the frontcourt, there is no contact with hands and forearms by defenders except below the free throw line extended in which case the defender may only use his forearm."Two years later, further restrictions: "No contact with either hands or forearms by defenders except in the frontcourt below the free throw line extended in which case the defender may use his forearm only.""Neither the offensive player nor the defender will be allowed to dislodge or displace a player who has legally obtained a position.""Defender may not use his forearm, shoulder, hip or hand to reroute or hold-up an offensive player going from point A to Point B or one who is attempting to come around a legal screen set by another offensive player.""Slowing or impeding the progress of the screener by grabbing, clutching, holding “chucking” or “wrapping up” is prohibited.""On the weakside, defenders must remain on the weakside outside the paint unless (i) they are double-teaming the ball, (ii) picking up a free cutter or (iii) closely guarding an offensive player."2002, the permanent death of zone defense: "A new defensive three-second rule will prohibit a defensive player from remaining in the lane for more than three consecutive seconds without closely guarding an offensive player."Imagine if a hockey goalie occasionally had to leave his net WIDE OPEN for anyone to freely shoot into, because staying in the crease caused a penalty.That's defensive three-seconds.2004 Pistons, maybe the best defense ever.RULE CHANGE, 04-05 season: "New rules were introduced to curtail hand-checking, clarify blocking fouls and call defensive three seconds to open up the game."And now the game is just threes and layups, because you can't touch anyone."The truth is, it makes the game [where] players have to be more skillful. Nowadays, literally anybody can get out there and get to the basket and you can't touch anybody. Back then, if guys put their hands on you, you had to have the skill to be able to go both ways, change direction, post up, you had to have a mid-range game because you didn't want to go all the way to the basket because you would get knocked ass over tea kettle. So I think playing the game back then required MUCH MORE SKILL."--Kobe Bryant on 80/90s basketball
Horace Grant, Shawn Kemp, Dale Davis, Otis Thorpe, Dennis Rodman and Clifford Robinson were intense on defense. Sometimes going physical isn't just to stop a play, it's to put out a warning that if you're going to disrespect a rim protector on defense, you're going to have to pay a toll every time. Giannis is a great player, but man, if some of these names can give _SHAQ_ the business, of all people, you best know that they'll be able to keep Giannis at least honest. Oh, and funny that you don't mention Derrick Coleman that much here, since he's probably the closest to a prototype Giannis among all those on this list.
I think part of the problem is all these stars pairing up, so one of them is obviously going to get less chances.
2016 finals were so evenly matched that you could tell the slightest advantages would give the team a large lead. If you watched it live you know how much of a chess match it actually was.
@4th the thing with that tho the Warriors still had a chance to beat the Cavs in 2016 even with Dray’s suspension and Bogut’s injury. If Curry didn’t shoot so poorly those last couple games they may have pulled it off. I was glad to see Curry finally win a ring where both his team and the opponent were fully healthy and the stakes were evenly matched.
@YTBasketball101 not really salty, it's just facts. LeBron really hasn't had an amazing finals win yet
@Johnny B. Good literally all i care about is having great suspenseful *actually competitive* basketball, insulting bron doesn’t offend me lol idgaf about specific players or teams i just love the NBA 😆i’d have zero respect for lebron too if he only won KD-style but nah his teams were always beatable he never stacked it so there weren’t any other teams that could go toe to toe with his and win. if he’d ever just hopped on a ready-made already all-time great team that his addition made completely unbeatable i’d be piling 💩 on his legacy all the time
@princss nasty Speaking of stacking a deck, LeFraud actually jumped teams, stacked his teams, traded the entire roster, yet still crying to suspend Green. 😂 😂
And if you have half a brain you'd know that "slight" wasn't really slight since it were the league officials rigging the games for LeFraud.
Best take by Jimmy on this... the Admiral comparison with Giannis. Love Oakley, and shocked though by his #'s head to head with David Robinson. He held it down. Still though... 100% agree... the game changes, players will change to the game. Not seeing anyone wearing Chuck Taylor's anymore.
Here's my hot take. Kobe isn't even top 5 all time. If you wanna talk in the replies we can
You should make more of these, i love it! And i'm sure your fans do as well
I think looking at the Nets the past few seasons. They had injuries and a Covid restricted Kyrie last year. Assuming Nets were injury free, they were probably an NBA championship caliber team.
As a guy who grew up watching basketball in the sixties, the players weren't more physical than today, the rules just allowed them to get away with being more physical, which the rules don't allow today. Also, coming up through the years were centers who rarely had a 3 point shot . Today's game overall is far more exciting to watch and the players overall have more skills!!!
@Grayson Allen You saying that Like Westbrook isn’t giving modern players buckets….( prime Westbrook)
@Blaque players are better today game more fun lmfao russel westbrick would give 90s clowns buckets
Why would centers without a 3pt line develop a 3pt shot ? Lol
@Big 3 💀💀💀🤣😂😂🤣😂🤣💀
@Young Philosopher lol
That’s what I’m saying. 2016 was crazy for the whole country not just Clevelanders like me
My hot take: Jahlil Okafor is a really good center. Philly's "Trust The Process" ruined him. When he got minutes in NOLA he was good. When he got minutes in Philly, he was good. He's not bad, nobody wants to give him a shot.Yes, he plays in the wrong era, but we still see players post up a lot per game(Jokic, Embiid) and it works. I'm not saying Okafor would be as effective as those two, but he deserves a spot on an NBA roster at least
I honestly feel like the MVP award should be counted to playoff performance(excluding NBA finals) I know that it's just for the regular season, but think about it, the Most VALUABLE Player has to show up for both the regular season and the playoffs, it's pretty upsetting when you see a MVP look like a monster during the regular season, but choke during the playoffs and the runner-up for the MVP is beasting, just my opinion though.
Hot take: 1 more season like this steph could arguably be top 5 all time especially with another ring and finals mvp
With the introduction of social media its turned the NBA into a daytime soap opera. I'm happy remembering the 90s as the true golden era.
Here's what needs to be considered with regard to comparing modern NBA players to times past.1. Defense - No hand checking and a lot less physical. Are their offensive skills really tested like in times past?2. Fighting - Players mouths move a lot more because the penalties for fighting are a lot heavier than in times past.3. Carrying - Players used to have to know how to dribble. Carrying allows players to change direction and speed a lot quicker which makes them more difficult to defend especially when the defense is no longer allowed to hand check.Conclusion: Modern NBA players are Divas compared to times past.
A few reasons for this:1. Past players envying present players’ huge salaries2. Current gutless athletes such as Lebron bowing to China and woke nonsense3. The “Eurostep” is traveling.
Unfortunately Jimmy, your first two opening points contradict each other. Your second point was that the level of talent has gotten crazy. This is true, but don’t you see? Because the talent has gotten so amazing, by default almost every team is a super team now with two to three Really well known Stars.
As a Cavs fan, the 2016 finals were so incredibly captivating. I got to be in the CLE Q when we won game 7. I'll never have a better cultural/sports moment and I'm totally fine with that. I mean, it was so unbelievable that it wasn't even like watching basketball. It was like the city of Cleveland was the most alive its ever been
honestly think that will be Lebron's legacy when it's all said and done. To bring a champioship to a city that had not won one for over 50 years... that's an instant arena statue
@Stratosphere not hard to lock up a dude on one leg. I guess James Harden also got locked up in game 7 vs the bucks in 2021
@G 2016 Curry got locked up by injured Kevin Love btw (who averaged only 8 points that series) in the final seconds of a Game 7 and blew a 3-1 Finals lead.
@G Classic blame the refs and call the NBA rigged anytime your favourite player chokes. What a bunch of horseshit. Curry lost them the Finals in 2016 and everyone knows, the Cavs only won by 5 POINTS and still Steph Curry played the worst game of his career.
I hope we can all recognize that of all the major leagues, the NBA has the highest social media activity from its players. This adds tremendous entertainment value, so much so, that some don't even watch games to enjoy the NBA. Agreed, some of the hot takes are ridiculous, but we all love it - don't deny it!
Comparing Giannis to the players way back when is impossible. The game is so different. I don't see David Robinson doing what Giannis does now, and I don't see Giannis doing what Robinson did back then. You can't compare apples to oranges, They're both good in different seasons
Question…If Ben Simmons played in round one against The Celtics what would’ve been the outcome of the series.
Actually being a bit of an 'old head' myself (played NCAA in the 1980s) I think today's NBA is INSANELY skilled and talented. The nutrition, the workout regimen, the way players can and do take far better care of themselves and the 'time management' so they don't just wear down so quickly means that the top 3 in each position would, with a few exceptions, been the top 3 in any year prior to 2000. I mean seriously... other than Magic, Bird, Dr. J, and Jordan (all of whom took pretty good care of their bodies from most accounts) I just can't see a player from that era who would be a top 3 in their position today. Kiki Vandeweghe was one of the great power forwards of his era in his early career. In 1983 he was a 30, 5, 3 guy who made the NBA All-Star team and helped lead the Nuggets to the playoffs. At 6'8" with good hands, decent athleticism, and very solid footwork he was a star. Honestly, would he REALLY start in front of Aaron Gordon today? Probably not honestly. He didn't have Gordon's size, athleticism, wasn't a better outside shooter, and wasn't as solid a perimeter defender. Aaron's good. A very solid player who would start for a lot of other NBA teams, but he didn't even get a sniff at the All-Star team. Nuff said.
Don’t let the athleticism fool you lol. Aaron Gordon is inefficient and is a negative on defense.
That Giannis take is already a living meme pretty much.Also yeah while the final score for each game of 2016 looks huge, in Game 5, it was wire to wire in the first half and didnt get blown open till the end. Game 6 started off a blowout but there was a near fourth quarter comeback that was derailed by a couple insane LeBron plays and a few bad calls by the refs.
@Almighty Yeezy Dab So why didn’t Shaq or MJ average 40 in the 90’s ? Lol
@Robert Victor Jocson Giannis shoots 29% from 3, 72% from the line and 36% from mid range. He doesn’t not have a soft touch at all lol
@Almighty Yeezy Dab The pace was slower in the mid to late 90’s so I don’t know how you average more points on less possessions. Superhuman ? Shaq is much bigger and stronger than Giannis, Embid and Lebron with a vertical reach and he never averaged close to 40 lol.
Well that was actually the real reason KD joined GS.. Watch Draymond's interview in JJ's podcast about what really happened during KD's recruitment. He literally said there "he and KD knows what's up" and "how to make it right" and other cryptic statements, as they had a conversation of what happened in that finals, right after game 7 when Dray was still in the locker room.And it perfectly makes sense.. as GS and OKC would be killing each other every year trying to get past the other, and after all that they would still have to face the final boss- LeFraud and his evil refs.
That Draymond suspension was suspect though, as no calls were actually made during the play. Only hours after the game after Bron lobbied for his suspension was he magically given a flagrant thus the suspension.. Now given how physical the whole series was, watch all the fouls Steph got in game 6, where he got 2 calls right away in the 1st quarter before eventually fouling out. Those calls were also suspect and soft asf. Watch how the Cavs try to deny the ball to Steph and how physical they were in defending him, aside from trying to "bump" him every chance they get. And you compare those soft a** fouls. You can try to re-watch as videos for both were uploaded here somewhere.
It seems to me that superstar teams have been formed more often because there are somehow much more superstars nowadays and that's not only because of the higher skill players but also because NBA is at its popularity peak. It doesn't look like it's going to slow down either, so expect much more "superstars" in the coming years.
the oakley take felt really far off specially if he himself couldn't stop him, he'll just send him to the line every time haha
Vince Carter is one of the most underrated amazing player OAT, seriously there is no talk about him and his talent. His highlights are amazing and if anyone brings him up in a conversation all they talk about is his dunking, when really he is an amazing finisher around the rim and can shoot the 3 ball pretty well. He could have very well have been on the NBA top 75 list.
insane how quickly some people forget how incredible and improbable 2016 finals was. like theres a good chance we will never see anything even close to that again
I get his point . But it was the storyline leading up to game 7, a finals rematch that literally everybody wanted to see , curry looking like he was gonna take bron spot as the best player , klay taking shots bron , bron blocking curry telling him he’s still the king , everything leading up to game 7 was perfect , and then game 7 itself was perfect .
@Gary W-l-o-t 2016 no he was not
@Oluwaseun Simpson you are so unfunny
@Boy Toy He was the best player in the world then too dummy
if you didnt see it, you'd think it was some WWE storyline lol. was almost too good to be true
@Boy Toy ya mama
@jxmyhighroller Hello, massive fan. Maybe do a video session on the unsung hero of the Golden State Warriors Kevon Looney. Only Warrior to play 82 games and helped in the key series of the Grizzlies and the Mavericks. Maybe not even a hot take... Thanks and keep up the good work!
This man said the clippers haven’t done nothing, such a casual take lmaoo, 1st year, 1 game away from western conference finals 2nd year was the of the greatest playoff runs ever, coming back from 2-0 twice and almost beat the suns without kawhi. Also if pg didn’t get covid clippers would of won the play-in.
My theory is under Stern the NBA wanted to have a superstar on every team, under Silver they want to make match ups the people want(ed) but are not panning out for the most part, as there are maybe too much ego's flying around. Everyone can't have the ball at the same time... so no one is playing true team basketball. This is why Toronto was able catch that quick title in 2019, they played a different game than everyone that year and only had one superstar to get the ball to and everyone else would contributes as best they can.
0:10 I love how people count Stephs KD lead rings. But yet we don't count them for KD... Even tho KD was clearly the best player on that team. This is why it's very hard to be a curry fan for me. His game is literally everything I love. Literally he is the perfect player for my type of fandom yet I cant because people overrate this man and act like he didnt get drafted in a great situation with Klay and Dray and a smart organization. We just act like Dray isn't playing point guard out there and like Klay isn't the 2nd greatest shooter ever. You get my point.
The 2016 finals was the first full finals I ever watched - from EUROPE! I had to stay up all night until like 5:30 in the morning just to watch the whole game and I watched EVERY game! That’s how exciting that series was!
@Benedict Laz 2nd grade reading comprehension
I’ll never forget seeing grown men in Germany weeping after that Cavs win. Many were Americans visiting from abroad, along with native Germans that were huge lebron fans. I wanted Steph to win, but couldn’t hold back the tears after hearing LeBron give his “I don't know why the man above gave me the hardest road” speech.
@Keeran Jani lol okay i get it.
@Benedict Laz Yeah Bro, games started at 3 and ended at like 5:30
Same, except I live in the US. I literally just commented this
I literally laughed out loud when you were talking about frank brickowski, and I have ear buds in so I looked like an idiot 😂
Ain't no way he called KD a "fan" responding to Shaq 😂😂😂
Just wanna say your channel literally got me back into NBA after a 15 year hiatus.
That harden take at the start of the vid is one of the worst even before this season😂😂
2016 Finals Games 5 & 6 were like a Cleveland Dunkfest when dunkfests were still exciting
If Game 7 of the 2016 wasn’t such an all time classic, nobody and I mean nobody is saying that is the greatest finals of all time. Yes the narratives are amazing but from a tension standpoint if all 7 games were blowouts that’s the most disappointing outcome to a heavily anticipated finals duel you can possibly have. But because that one single game actually gave us what was advertised people just forget that from a casual fan standpoint none of the rest of the games had any tension down the wire. So many other finals have had similarly fantastic storylines and actually compelling competitive games down the stretch more than just one time. 1969, 1984, 1993, 1997, 2013, all of these were more entertaining series from a competitive aspect than the 2016 series was. If you were not actively a Lebron fan or Curry fan there was no incentive to watch any game in most of the fourth quarter time all series until Game 7. Think about this year’s playoffs. Game 7 of the Celtics v Miami series was arguably the most tense exciting and important game all postseason. But no sane person is calling than an all time great playoff series because the first 6 games were near constant blowouts. One amazing game does not a GOAT series make. It helps a lot for sure. But if anyone tells me that 2016 was a better series than the 2013 Finals to watch from a competitive and entertainment perspective, I’m going to assume you did not actually watch that 2013 series. Two GOAT candidates, Lebron’s legacy on the line, an epic last second wild shot to clinch game 1, the greatest finals game ever in Game 6 with the single highest pressure shot ever made in nba history at the end, like they already had the ropes out it was looking so done, then clutch plays by Chris Bosh to force a Game 7 where Lebron hits the finals clinching shot with 40 seconds left.I know that 3-1 is a bigger comeback overall than 3-2 but those two wins were both so incredibly difficult to come by, it was arguably just as impressive.
“All time great players would of dominate in any area” that part 👏🏾